Magicians can make us see things that aren't there, and can hide things from us in plain view. How do they DO that? Are we so easily duped, or is there something truly supernatural in their abilities? Alex Stone, author of the new book Fooling Houdini: Magicians, Mentalists, Math Geeks and the Hidden Powers of the Mind, joins host Jenny Nelson to talk about how magicians learn the tricks of their trade, why magic is so addictive, and how he managed to get kicked out of his local chapter of the Society of American Magicians.